OK, NEVER punted before, so I need some guidance cos I"ve pretty much made up my mind that I"d rather punt that have an affair and wreck my marriage with kids [my perception is that online dating/hookups is filled with bunny boilers and thus rather risky]. But there"s a LOAD of stuff I don"t fully understand:
[ul][li]Venues: So my understanding is that we have "travel" or "out call" [same thing right?] and "in call". In call can be a venue or a WG"s private apartment. I much prefer the latter than risk being seen at a known house. So on redvelvet this distinction isn"t clear. Do I just ask? Do they tell you the truth? [/li][li]Contact: So every WG gives her cell number. Clearly I need to call or SMS. Is there any risk of them sending ME an SMS that could [WOULD!] be seen by the wife? [/li][li]Risk: Am I at any risk legally? Perhaps a cop sting operation? Perhaps a WG blackmailing me? [/li][li]STD"s: Is a condom enough? Surely it doesn"t protect against herpes [cold sores] which spreads from skin contact even without visible symptoms? [/li][li]Payment: Does one pay in advance? I"ve read comments that this is a bad sign. If so, what about tipping? I definitely see the merit in agreeing up front rather than negotiating in the heat of passion. [/li][li]Pricing: OK, this is my PRIMARY question. I need pricing guidelines of some sort. Assume a typical WG on this site, petite and hot, in JHB North but perhaps not Sandton central [I imagine that"s more expensive].:
- What is a reasonable range for basic stuff?
- What"s included in that basic? I"m presuming massage, hand job and sex, but perhaps oral too?
- What"s the premium for Greek?
- And what about tipping? If one has agreed a price, is a tip still required for a good time? And what % is reasonable? [/li][li]Finally, what are the cons I need to watch out for? I"m hearing of girls who get it over in 10mins and kick u out, girls who offer greek but force you to repeat your custom and earn loyalty before they do, and of course girls who subtly rob you. Are there any other cons or genuine risks? Perhaps blackmail? Thanks for taking ANY time to help. I know I can read about this stuff for the US, Thailand, or any other country. But info specific to SA is scarce.[/li][/ul] Cheers
Craigie

OK, so some feedback cos I've had my first punt:
[ul][li]Venues: The girls I chatted to either had own apartment, in which case they made it clear, or a venue in which case they say parking is 'safe' meaning discrete. I went to one who worked out of a self-catering accom. Gate was opaque, only a couple of neighbours in similarly shady places, and she had a room in this place. Amazingly discrete! NO WAY anyone I know cud have seen me entering or parked. [/li][li]Contact: Yes, you SMS, they reply [from a different number - why???] and within a text or two they insist u call to firm arrangements. It's all surprisingly easy [/li][li]Risk: nothing to add. It feels very very safe. [/li][li] STD's: So I've read up on this. Condom protects against sex transmission, so oral remains the question: Herpes is the only real issue - others don't transmit too easily female to male. Herpes can transmit without visible symptoms, but that's rarer than when there are visible sores. So check for those I guess. [/li][li]Payment: I paid after. There were no concerns on her part. [/li][li]Pricing: OK, so girls I chatted to ranged from R400 to 500 for the hour. The hour was EVERYTHING u could want tho! Massage thro to sex. OMG that's so freakin cheap! A hairdresser costs more! A physio costs more! It's insane. And she was smoking hot - not some desperate fat chick. I actually chose to pay R1k vs R450. Now, I saw 'greek' was on her list of offerings, but I didn't want nor get. Perhaps that request would have resulted in a negotiation. I'm not sure cos the lube was out and ready anyway. What I have seen [freakonomics] is that anal is generally priced at a 10% premium over vaginal [in the US]. So I don't think it's a huge step. [/li][li]Finally: so I've read on girls who steal [esa or paymt - I forget - tags and bans them]. I'm sure there are those that rush you to come and go too. Mine was a delight and made me very comfortable for a first timer. Oh, and I texted 4 in the morning, 2 replied immediately, and NONE texed me later on - ie I think they get that a text a while after the first text cud get u in trouble. I also heard her cell beeping whilst we were busy and she ignored it - so that's why they don't reply. I guess ur text should clearly say "text when u r free" if that's what you're OK with doing. [/li][/ul]

Final thoughts: I was surprised at how similar this experience was to normal sex with the GF. Not any kinkier [but my GF is not a prude]. Less whining which was nice. But not really any more exciting. Nor any more disappointing tho. Just the same. Even down to her seemingly enjoying herself for a while [perhaps play play but then why no fake orgasm?]. So much the same. Weird I thought. I expected it to be very different somehow. Perhaps with time and familiarity?

In my experience :
1. Girls don't reply to sms's. Just call them. For what it's worth get a basic second phone that is ONLY used to call the girls.
2. Ask what their price is upfront. Most girls want to be paid upfront too.
3.Yes most girls will try to get you out of there quicker than you can get your rods down! If you find one who takes her time, hang onto her.
4. I have two girls I see regularly. They are both absolutely AMAZING! I usually get an hour and a half booking for R900.00. This includes a fantastic massage for at least an hour followed by foreplay and BJ and full sex. The one girl I take to hotels as well for overnighters at no extra cost. If you can find someone to be a regular with it is a bonus. Both girls work from their own venues with showers, fresh clean towels, scented candles, background music. They both shower before and after as do I.
edited by kisarmour on 12/15/2014

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