https://test.redvelvet.co.za Redvelvet Escorts Forum - Recent posts https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17374 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17374 Interesting discussion, but a difficult one. Punting rates have not gone up with inflation sadly. From my recent chats with WGs, accommodation rates have increased significantly as COVID has reduced with more people travelling. Also, owners have started kicking them out as they have become more busy. To add to that, the punting pool is quieter (been told, can’t confirm). I think that if you don’t own your own venue, you may battle to make ends meet if you charge R600 - R 800. Just a view, no disrespect intended. by Test Sat, 09 Apr 2022 06:15:30 GMT Sat, 09 Apr 2022 06:15:30 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17371 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17371 Spot on Nevil by Assetmanager Fri, 08 Apr 2022 13:49:17 GMT Fri, 08 Apr 2022 13:49:17 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17369 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17369 the issue with this is whether or not the rate justifies the service even if the rate is top end dont you guys think the service should match ? another huge deciding factor is the attitude of the wg, this style of acting like they doing you a favour is a major turn of and automatically what ever you paid is too much by nevil Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:37:19 GMT Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:37:19 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17368 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17368 I have been punting for a more then a few years and having your own accommodation helps alot with price meet 2 wgs that used to charge 800 an hour charge me 500 for 3 hours cause of my own venue by da12b Fri, 08 Apr 2022 06:11:31 GMT Fri, 08 Apr 2022 06:11:31 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17360 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17360 How long ago was that? R450 fo8r a full day is very rare, and honestly, I kind of find difficult to believe these days. R200 an hr is quite normal for Westville through to Toti with it tending to rise going into more upmarket areas like Kloof/DNorth/Ballito etc With upwards of R800+ for a day for quality venues a reality for a while now. Been friends with 1 or 2 ladies for years, met them outside the industry actually as luck would have it, so no reason to doubt them at all. Sry, quick edit to clarify. These shared the info as friends chatting to a curious male friend that I was for the details, not as a client, as inside info about the inner workings, costs etc, not as ladies trying to justify costs to a potential client. I had said I was curious to explore the hype (lied about not already in the punting life) and they shared, happy to have a non-judgemental male friend to chat to, and openly chatted to 'inform' me and help me not get scammed etc, where they refuse to work, why etc etc. One friend turns out been in it for over 5yrs, and the other 8yrs. Blew my mind when found out, purely by accident, they 'blurted it out' in a group discussion that had somehow turned to sex, wgs and other nonsense among friends. I would never have guessed it was their 'vocation'. edited by MoWKzn on 3/18/2022 by Biggest Baddest Wolf Thu, 07 Apr 2022 12:54:56 GMT Thu, 07 Apr 2022 12:54:56 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17358 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17358 So i dabbled in 2 x R1K per hour punts ...and i will say that 1 off them was worth the effort and fee.. the other overpriced - based on a few factors... Clean neat well groomed with nice bed and privacy is worth the extra money even if she might not be a 10/10 person.../ looks in your opinion.... also i noted that these ladies also follow a better hygiene routine and leave space to be ready for new booking.... So maybe the rate is some cases justifies the effort and payment.... There are a few gems around on a lower payment plan... unfortunately room venue etc present an issue.... by Mr BarryP Thu, 07 Apr 2022 11:03:58 GMT Thu, 07 Apr 2022 11:03:58 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17033 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17033 Just a thought, if prostitution was legalized then we'd probably have cheaper rates, more importantly the wgs would have more safety and security. Right now girls pay a premium for venues mostly because it comes with added safety and security, even if the venue is doggy and crap. In some western countries where its legalized escorts are even cheaper then SA. Many of these girls know most guys think the price is high and if they feasible could they probably would chrage less. A regular girl i see pays R400 a day for her venue, she works every day and cant afford to loose out on potential income, so she probably pays an average of 12k a month just on the venue. edited by Heisenberg1 on 3/21/2022 by Heisenberg1 Mon, 21 Mar 2022 16:00:01 GMT Mon, 21 Mar 2022 16:00:01 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17015 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17015 Wow, quite the entitled bunch of arses... and giys wonder why get attitude from ladies... Simply saying can't expect fee to never go up. R500-R800 has been a rate for years and pretty much everywhere else in SA is now R800 to R1500 depending on area/venue quality etc. Guess I'll just go about keeping my experiences to myself with these sorts of attitudes towards the ladies. by MoWKzn Fri, 18 Mar 2022 19:34:43 GMT Fri, 18 Mar 2022 19:34:43 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17013 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17013 After reading these posts I feel bad for trying to satisfy myself when visiting a wg, when I should be actually trying to save them from their circumstances, one of you crusaders out there should start a charity for the wgs so we all can make donations to them, since their expenses are more than any other profession Save the damsel in distress fund!!!! Not all heros wear capes and some times they wear nothing at all by nevil Fri, 18 Mar 2022 19:14:37 GMT Fri, 18 Mar 2022 19:14:37 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17010 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17010 Howsit guys. With regards to the wg overheads. Besides the venue she has to outlay capital on cosmetics, clothes, hair,nails and any other thing they use to enhance their service offering. After all their expenses they still like the rest of us need money for their personal lives. It's tough out their. honestly, it doesn't look a lucrative business, also because there is low demand for high profile escorts and RedVelvet is just a small step from street prostitution, it just avoid for them to be daily harassed by the cops PS: the daily rates of the 2 lodges are just dated yesterday by Lord_randal Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:32:53 GMT Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:32:53 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17009 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17009 Howsit guys. With regards to the wg overheads. Besides the venue she has to outlay capital on cosmetics, clothes, hair,nails and any other thing they use to enhance their service offering. After all their expenses they still like the rest of us need money for their personal lives. It's tough out their. by Assetmanager Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:26:26 GMT Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:26:26 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17007 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17007 just as a matter of interest guys, average quote for Cape Town girls seems to be between R1k and R1.5k. The days of R600 seem gone. by bigmac Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:00:53 GMT Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:00:53 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17004 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17004 How long ago was that? R450 for a full day is very rare, and honestly, I kind of find difficult to believe these days. R200 an hr is quite normal for Westville through to Toti with it tending to rise going into more upmarket areas like Kloof/DNorth/Ballito etc With upwards of R800+ for a day for quality venues a reality for a while now. Been friends with 1 or 2 ladies for years, met them outside the industry actually as luck would have it, so no reason to doubt them at all. Sry, quick edit to clarify. These shared the info as friends chatting to a curious male friend that I was for the details, not as a client, as inside info about the inner workings, costs etc, not as ladies trying to justify costs to a potential client. I had said I was curious to explore the hype (lied about not already in the punting life) and they shared, happy to have a non-judgemental male friend to chat to, and openly chatted to 'inform' me and help me not get scammed etc, where they refuse to work, why etc etc. One friend turns out been in it for over 5yrs, and the other 8yrs. Blew my mind when found out, purely by accident, they 'blurted it out' in a group discussion that had somehow turned to sex, wgs and other nonsense among friends. I would never have guessed it was their 'vocation'. edited by MoWKzn on 3/18/2022 by MoWKzn Fri, 18 Mar 2022 11:13:03 GMT Fri, 18 Mar 2022 11:13:03 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17003 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17003 Interesting topic... new to forum here, but not new to the scene. My question: And what about everything else costing more, this is afterall, their source of income, how to pay rent and put food on the table. How do you guys expect the ladies to stick around if doing the job keeps effectively paying less and less in relation to what living costs are? Venue prices aren't stagnant. Living costs arent stagnant. But the wg prices must never change? Seriously? edited by MoWKzn on 3/18/2022 edited by MoWKzn on 3/18/2022 I asked some wg how much is the daily fee for their lodge (morningside lodge and the one on paradise valley) and it was R450 day.. so the first client is the rent. I would say at least 2-3 clients per day is the magic number edited by Lord_randal on 3/18/2022 by Lord_randal Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:46:48 GMT Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:46:48 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17001 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post17001 Interesting topic... new to forum here, but not new to the scene. My question: And what about everything else costing more, this is afterall, their source of income, how to pay rent and put food on the table. How do you guys expect the ladies to stick around if doing the job keeps effectively paying less and less in relation to what living costs are? Venue prices aren't stagnant. Living costs arent stagnant. But the wg prices must never change? Seriously? edited by MoWKzn on 3/18/2022 edited by MoWKzn on 3/18/2022 by MoWKzn Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:24:19 GMT Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:24:19 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16950 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16950 Howsit guys I believe that a wg should ask whatever she wants. We decide if the experience is worth the fee. I have never booked when quoted more than R1500 and I don't negotiate. My best experiences have been between R600 and R800 quoted price. The girls that I visit regularly I pay R1000 even though their asking prices are less. That's because of the service I receive from them. Unfortunately when we get bad service the only thing we can do is post a review. We don't don't get our money back. by Assetmanager Wed, 16 Mar 2022 13:34:30 GMT Wed, 16 Mar 2022 13:34:30 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16949 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16949 hey guys, i feel 800 max for an elite punt is in order. I feel the main point to take here is that if WG's are getting bookings at 1K an hour irrespective of their service level or looks , then it is slowly going to become a set standard over time that every girl you call will quote you 1k for the hour and you budget punts will be 800. . . . . . i have been punting for over 16years now and have seen this trend over and over - in my first 5 years of punting the standard was under 200 for an extras included session . . . . So we as the "consumers" can set the standard that we want - if we follow some baseline rules we can dictate the playground we play on: - if we dont book ladies at absorbent prices then the WG will be forced to be fair and industry related - if we punters stick together and banish wg's with bad service or scammers then the ladies will improve their service level to secure their income. this is just 2 of many that i have in mind but dont want over play my role - this is just friendly general advice that would be beneficial to all punters as time goes on - just my 2c worth. by DurbanHustler Wed, 16 Mar 2022 13:23:33 GMT Wed, 16 Mar 2022 13:23:33 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16941 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16941 Sorry... Slip of the finger by notjustlooking Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:07:04 GMT Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:07:04 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16940 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16940 @mr Barry... I have paid that but only after seeing excellent reviews about someone and only if you REALLY want to visit that specific one... Like you say we all fall for those photos and want that booking (it's a man thing)... Guess I'll do it again when another stunner pops up but generally not prepared to pay that... I do however feel that paying cheap will get you cheap! I have had excellent punts between 600 to 800....just my thoughts so don't shoot me down by notjustlooking Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:06:27 GMT Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:06:27 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16939 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic2849-high-rates-vs-performance-service.aspx#post16939 @mr Barry... I have paid that but only after seeing excellent reviews about someone and only if you REALLY want to visit that specific one... Like you say we all fall for those photos and want that booking (it's a man thing)... Guess I'll do it again when another stunner pops up but generally not prepared to pay that... I do however feel that paying cheap will get you cheap! I have had excellent punts between 600 to 800....just my thoughts so don't shoot me down by notjustlooking Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:06:26 GMT Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:06:26 GMT