https://test.redvelvet.co.za Redvelvet Escorts Forum - Recent posts https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23956 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23956 Thank you @Kate and @Inaya for your feedback. @Inaya, I hear you on location. I’ve never had an issue when coming to see you as you’ve always been upfront with me from the get go. However, I still think if it’s a hotel venue, other WGs should atleast give the punter the name of the hotel. They don’t need to give the room number etc, just the name so punters can’t decide if it’s worth the trip and also know where they are going to. There’s nothing worse than trying to phone a WG whilst driving in traffic, in circles, like an idiot. The safety factor off course is noted which is why if it’s a house etc you don’t need to give the address upfront. But if it’s a hotel, be direct. If it’s a house, give a land mark ie: I am on the same road as KFC broadway etc. Makes things easier for both of us - less calls to you and better planning for us. edited by BlackStallion on 12/16/2022 Not a problem @BlackStallion Unfortunately these are my very few last days as by Wednesday I will be done with the industry for good by Butterfly22223 Mon, 19 Dec 2022 10:50:17 GMT Mon, 19 Dec 2022 10:50:17 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23877 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23877 Why do all the WG's visiting CT from Joburgh and Durbs double their usual rates? I can’t really speak on behalf of them bro, but I would think it’s because the earning power is different in your city compared to Durban for example. It also costs them more to travel to your city. Think about their travel time, accommodation, meals etc … when they are in their home town, all these things are already covered as part of their daily lives. When they travel, there’s added expenses. by BlackStallion Fri, 16 Dec 2022 06:38:07 GMT Fri, 16 Dec 2022 06:38:07 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23875 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23875 Thank you @Kate and @Inaya for your feedback. @Inaya, I hear you on location. I’ve never had an issue when coming to see you as you’ve always been upfront with me from the get go. However, I still think if it’s a hotel venue, other WGs should atleast give the punter the name of the hotel. They don’t need to give the room number etc, just the name so punters can’t decide if it’s worth the trip and also know where they are going to. There’s nothing worse than trying to phone a WG whilst driving in traffic, in circles, like an idiot. The safety factor off course is noted which is why if it’s a house etc you don’t need to give the address upfront. But if it’s a hotel, be direct. If it’s a house, give a land mark ie: I am on the same road as KFC broadway etc. Makes things easier for both of us - less calls to you and better planning for us. edited by BlackStallion on 12/16/2022 by BlackStallion Fri, 16 Dec 2022 06:25:44 GMT Fri, 16 Dec 2022 06:25:44 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23864 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23864 Why do all the WG's visiting CT from Joburgh and Durbs double their usual rates? by Deucalion Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:55:01 GMT Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:55:01 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23863 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23863 Wow Inaya. Very well said. by Assetmanager Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:27:39 GMT Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:27:39 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23860 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23860 Thank you so much @blackstallion for raising this topic, thank you as well for acknowledging my CS skills; I really do try my utmost. The actual reason I decided to reply to this topic was because it touches the LOCATION topic and those who have contacted me know how I'm VERY big on holding my location back and only give it out towards your scheduled time. The main reason i do this is obviously because, I want to make sure it doesn't get to the wrong hands. I then note down those who cancel after getting the address so I know the next steps to take in the future(I highly recommend other girls to use this technique), I was taught this by one of my clients when I had just started. Keeping tabs or noting down every "ghosts" or no shows will really help save your time and energy and also if one of these STUPID cops lie on you, you'll know very well who to go for. I do however give the closest landmark to everyone who calls to enquire so that it's easy for them to plan around which route to take cz petrol is a really huge thing(I was raised to never be an inconvenience to anyone so I guess that's why I'm such an emphath, apart from being a Pisces) I will continue to do it cz it's working for me and I hope punters understand, never had a complaint about how I give out an address until yesterday (story for another day) but I also want to say, some punters are really rude and feel super entitled of which may trigger horrible responses from girls and because they're angry at that, it can easily be taken out to the next punter and even though it's the girls responsibility to control their temper(as a business) it's also the punters responsibility (as a client) to have a good manner of approach, be gentle and most importantly, be human when enquiring about service and simply avoid vulgar, yes some punters like having that drive before going to the girl but hhayi not with me shame. we can go on the whole day but in all honesty, other girls wouldn't treat clients horribly if previous clients treated them with respect, I'm not picking sides but it's the truth and that's how it works in real life too. People sometimes get bitter because of past traumas and experience. I will not hide the fact if I get a call or text from someone who sounds rude, entitled, using vulgar etc, depending on my mood; I will correct that behaviour first then carry on with my rates etc, if then they still rude; I BLOCK, why? because I know I'm a good person who doesn't deserve that kind of treatment from anyone. I've been blessed to have never had a horrible experience after working in my area 2 months after starting and learning all that i know now. no one wakes up in the morning to say I WILL GIVE BAD SERVICE TODAY, it's the experience that revokes the behaviour. Yes some don't deserve that lashing but I believe you teach people how to treat you, by how you treat them; that goes for both WG and Punter. Cellphones are just a no no when with the client ofcz(cellphones aren't allowed at any workplace right?) but if it do forget to switch it off or have it on silent and it rings girls MUST ask to be excused TO SWITCH IT OFF not to answer. 2cent advise to other WG, The better service you give to that client you hosting will lead you to have a healthy bank balance and understand that not every client that calls you, is a client; it's ok to not rush to make that appointment and strain yourself. as soon as you start giving good service, work on hygiene and carry yourself well, will lead you to afford using grade A products for your client, grade A accomodation with good parking and privacy for your clients= quality business, at the end of the day; we have so much time in our hands, use that time to learn ways to develop yourself. I'm not an expert, but I do know that if you treat people with kindness and care, they will always count on you ..Sorry for the long read. hope it lands on the right person. The Inaya Brand by inaya Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:42:51 GMT Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:42:51 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23854 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23854 It works both ways phones off. You treat me like a King and you will be my Queen. Thanks Red Bull by Redbull Wed, 14 Dec 2022 20:20:54 GMT Wed, 14 Dec 2022 20:20:54 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23823 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23823 WGs generally hate us I had a interesting discussion about the difference between saying "Wgs generally" or "a lot of Wgs" ... In my opinion they are interchangeable, but if you prefer, read it by using "A lot of" 😁 In any case, the bottom line is, most of Wgs are like that, not all.. who is not like that, knows it by lord_R Tue, 13 Dec 2022 16:15:11 GMT Tue, 13 Dec 2022 16:15:11 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23780 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23780 what about when you make the booking and when you on the that particular road you realise its a shady run down house with blankets on the windows neglected gardens , which is sticking out like a sore thumb with the right information you can make a better decision as to where you wana book safety is a priority by nevil Mon, 12 Dec 2022 12:51:37 GMT Mon, 12 Dec 2022 12:51:37 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23776 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23776 had the same experience with regard to the location of the venue wasted my time driving in res hills cos the ad was listed in that area only to finally get hold of the lady who tells me she is in clare estate , and its peak traffic im the last booking just came from clare estate rushed on the other side of the m19 to go for the appointment only to come back to near where i was in the first place Had the same issue about two weeks ago Nevil. Ended up driving in La Lucia like an idiot for 20 minutes when the venue was near lagoon drive. If i had known, wouldn’t have even bothered with the booking. That’s why I say WG’s need to be a little upfront about this. State in your ad if you’re at a hotel or not. Not everyone feels comfortable at a house with other punters there. I rather pay a little more and have a good sense of privacy and security. by BlackStallion Mon, 12 Dec 2022 11:56:31 GMT Mon, 12 Dec 2022 11:56:31 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23762 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23762 had the same experience with regard to the location of the venue wasted my time driving in res hills cos the ad was listed in that area only to finally get hold of the lady who tells me she is in clare estate , and its peak traffic im the last booking just came from clare estate rushed on the other side of the m19 to go for the appointment only to come back to near where i was in the first place by nevil Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:12:00 GMT Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:12:00 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23755 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23755 What I am missing is some sort of rating for the girls services on the website. Like you find in on Massage.co.za That at least would give us some idea beforehand if we want to make contact or not. The provider of this website should think about it and maybe improve for the sake of us. Because if we are´nt using this website the Ads of the girls would die... by George Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:55:51 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:55:51 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23754 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23754 What I am missing is some sort of rating for the girls services on the website. Like you find in on Massage.co.za That at least would give us some idea beforehand if we want to make contact or not. The provider of this website should think about it and maybe improve for the sake of us. Because if we are´nt using this website the Ads of the girls would die... by George Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:55:42 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:55:42 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23752 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23752 @Lord I agree with you … It’s only a minority that actually conducts themselves well, and that’s why they have the market share. Customer service is so key. If WG’s just follow the above suggestions, I’m sure we can see a vast improvement in 2023. Venue is important to punters and so is respect. It works both ways. Interested to see more suggestions added in here. Let the WG’s see your concerns and then improve their services. Vice versa, if there’s anything the WG’s want to bring to our attention or want us punters to work on, then engage here with us I have already said this a few times, but from the number of your messages you are new, so let me summarize it again.. WGs generally hate us, because here escorting is not a way of making reasonably big money, but it is just survival, prostitution and, for them, we are nothing more than perverts taking advantage of our power over them (money). Based on this assumption, you can easily understand their behavior, even worse when the clients usually (or try to) corner them to obtain discounts by using this power on them. Obviously they will try to recover the loss from the following clients that, probably, have no fault in this situation and this vicious circle goes on and on there are, however, girls smart enough to understand that it is better tackle this by raising the standards. Usually they are the most educated, you can expect that from them; but, considering the market is flooded of girls survival mode, trying to pay a decent life to 3-4 children left at the mother's place (that also expects her cut to close her eyes on something that is so clear), you can not even hope any change in the future (actually you can expect to meet their daughters in 15 years) Lord I agree with you, but I’ve been doing this for a few years now, just never bothered to post or review because I never needed to since Barry had that covered for a while! I agree with you that there are some WG’s that work and survive on a day to day basis, but there are also WG’s who charge a premium (10 blues or more) for their services and who do this to maintain a decent lifestyle for themselves. These are the WG’s who should strive to be a little better with their customer service and overall interactions with punters. Taking calls during sessions, false advertising or not being upfront about venues etc should be handled better. There are newer girls like Inaya or kate-Lynn for example who know exactly how to provide excellent customer service just like the standard you’d get in the past from someone like Emeryn or even Mishka. Improved service from a certain category of WG’s will garner more clientele for them and better punts for us. by BlackStallion Sun, 11 Dec 2022 20:13:28 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 20:13:28 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23745 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23745 @Lord I agree with you … It’s only a minority that actually conducts themselves well, and that’s why they have the market share. Customer service is so key. If WG’s just follow the above suggestions, I’m sure we can see a vast improvement in 2023. Venue is important to punters and so is respect. It works both ways. Interested to see more suggestions added in here. Let the WG’s see your concerns and then improve their services. Vice versa, if there’s anything the WG’s want to bring to our attention or want us punters to work on, then engage here with us I have already said this a few times, but from the number of your messages you are new, so let me summarize it again.. WGs generally hate us, because here escorting is not a way of making reasonably big money, but it is just survival, prostitution and, for them, we are nothing more than perverts taking advantage of our power over them (money). Based on this assumption, you can easily understand their behavior, even worse when the clients usually (or try to) corner them to obtain discounts by using this power on them. Obviously they will try to recover the loss from the following clients that, probably, have no fault in this situation and this vicious circle goes on and on there are, however, girls smart enough to understand that it is better tackle this by raising the standards. Usually they are the most educated, you can expect that from them; but, considering the market is flooded of girls survival mode, trying to pay a decent life to 3-4 children left at the mother's place (that also expects her cut to close her eyes on something that is so clear), you can not even hope any change in the future (actually you can expect to meet their daughters in 15 years) Lord by lord_R Sun, 11 Dec 2022 18:13:34 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 18:13:34 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23741 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23741 Try not to ask for payment upfront that's also kind of a soft maker. actually that's how it is supposed to be, however, WGs here are not professional.. if there is not that trust, then it is going to be a disappointment by lord_R Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:51:51 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:51:51 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23740 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23740 Put your phone off or on silent when busy with a client. I go soft when it rings and we're busy. Try not to ask for payment upfront that's also kind of a soft maker. by strongbow Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:24:06 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:24:06 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23734 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23734 @Lord I agree with you … It’s only a minority that actually conducts themselves well, and that’s why they have the market share. Customer service is so key. If WG’s just follow the above suggestions, I’m sure we can see a vast improvement in 2023. Venue is important to punters and so is respect. It works both ways. Interested to see more suggestions added in here. Let the WG’s see your concerns and then improve their services. Vice versa, if there’s anything the WG’s want to bring to our attention or want us punters to work on, then engage here with us by BlackStallion Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:56:14 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:56:14 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23733 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23733 read these kind of suggestions for years but the market has only gone worse Escorting in Europe is a different thing, here are like small kitties that have just lost their mother and try to steal as much food as they can from the person that has already saved them. The behavior is the same, they don't get the advantage of the customer service, most of them they live day by day. when they have scammed enough clients in one area, they will move to the next and they will be back once everything is forgotten (maybe with a new nickname and different photos) obviously not all WGs are like that, but from the reviews we can see they are a negligeable minority by lord_R Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:57 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:57 GMT https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23732 https://test.redvelvet.co.za/topic4083-a-note-to-wg-s.aspx#post23732 This is brilliant. But what I wonder if they’re reading this. by Aech_Jay Sun, 11 Dec 2022 08:30:00 GMT Sun, 11 Dec 2022 08:30:00 GMT